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The Symposium

Book Review   by:BenUriel     Original Author: Plato
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In 416 comedic playwright and charming protégé of Socrates, Agathon, won the palm for the best new comedy at the Dionysian Festival. On the second night of his celebration, a drinking party (symposium) was held at his house for the leading intellects of Athens including Socrates and his friend Aristodemus. The revelers agreed, having drunk heartily the night before, to drink slowly, requiring each eminent guests to give an economium on the god Love (Eros). The results were reported by Aristodemus to Apollodorus (who presumably informed Plato)

Phaedrus said Eros was the oldest of the gods and gave poetic reference. Yet he said Love of all the gods had no poetic patron which seemed wrong. He thought it notable that lovers, whether men on the battlefield or heterosexual couples in domestic life, will do brave and meritorious things rather than be shamed in front of their lover. He noted that Alcestis who gave her life for her husband was allowed to return from Hades but Orpheus who would not lay down his life did not succeed in getting his wife back.


Pausanius, the legalist, complained that Phaedrus did not distinguish between the common love of Aphrodite (homosexual and heterosexual and common) and the exalted love of Aetheria (essentially homosexual and virtuous) indicating a disinterest in heterosexual relations and praising male-male unions because males were thought more intelligent. Aetherian love encourages a meeting of the minds. Pausanius notes different Greek regions have different tolerances for homosexual love. Finally, he observes that even a young man who submits himself to the advances of an older in hopes of money or for lust is disgraceful; rather such unions should be based on a desire to obtain wisdom and maturity from the elder lover.


Eryximachus took the turn of Aristophanes beset with hiccups, and argued that the God of love controls not only humans but animals and plants and even other Gods. He claimed that the two loves of Pausanius existed in all of these and that one was healthy and the other unhealthy and it was the physician’s duty to balance the two to promote health (He is not referring to gender orientation but to the virtuousness or commonness of love).


Aristophanes, the great comedic playwright of classical Greece told a yarn about how people had once been joined in pairs (facing away from each other) with double the number of limbs. There were male-male pairs, female-female pairs and female-male pairs. For some transgression (in the era of Prometheus) Zeus punished them by splitting them into their component halves with each half reborn into the world thereafter seeking his or her former counterpart. This supposedly explained why there were different gender preferences in love. It appears Aristophanes thought the topic a a great joke.


Agathon provided a stirring economium in which he uncritically ascribed every virtue and strength to love insisting he was the greatest of the Gods.


Socrates, taking the opportunity to teach Agathon questioned him as to whether that which desires (Love) already has what it desires. Agathon agreed it did not, and Socrates asked whether anyone ever loved what was not good and Agathon admitted they did not. Then Socrates said that love could not therefore be as Agathon had said because if it had such good things those in its possession, it would not be in want of them.


Socrates then recounted his experience with the great Athenian seer Diotama of Mantinea, his instructress in the art of love and perhaps much else. Diotama told Socrates love was not indeed a god but a great spirit (daemon – from whence demon) the child of Poros (plenty) and Penia (Poverty) fathered at the birthday feast of Aphrodite while Poros lay drunk. Love is always poor but resourceful and determined. Men only love that which they perceive as good and can love what they already possess only when they want it to last eternally. This is a sublimated desire for immortality. Diotama described the lesser mysteries of love as the need to be immortal through offspring – love of the body (essentially heterosexual and procreational in character). She spoke of a higher more exalted love that did not require procreation or even a physical component – a love of the spirit. Spirits thus joined create something new and wonderful in seeking that which is good and thereby achieving an immortality of the soul of the lover. This sort of love she said could flourish between any two people (ie between men and men and women and women as well as between men and women)


Alcibiades arrived drunken and playfully, jealously complained of Socrates closeness to Agathon. He recounted his own experiences with Socrates, a great mentor to him and whom he had loved devotedly but who, in accordance with Diotama’s higher mysteries, though risking his life for Alcibiades in battle, would not consummate that love physically. The Platonic love elucidated by Diotama was demonstrated by Alcibiades (albeit disappointedly) and Socrates.


Socrates, unaffected by drink conversed with Agathon and Aristophanes about theater until dawn and went his way.


It is notable that Socrates agreed to speak saying he could not refuse to talk about the only subject he knew anything about. Xenophon later lampooned Socrates in his own derivative but decidedly less reverential “Symposium” saying Socrates delighted the others with his detailed knowledge if the art of pimping. It is also extraordinary that Diotama, the one person acknowledged wise by Socrates, was a woman.


Translator Jowett remarked the Symmposium “is the most perfect in form” of all Plato’s works and “More than any other Platonic work is Greek both in style and subject, having a beauty ‘as of a statue’ "
Published: February 07, 2012   
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    Comment 1 continued

    There is also a humorous subtext (which I still don't follow entirely yet) of Alcibiades teasing comparison of Socrates to a Satyr (infamous, insatiable chasers of women). Socrates married the much younger Xanthippe siring children in advanced age yet with women he behaved in moderation.

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    Plato's view

    Socrates appears here to be rather heterosexually inclined. Plato may not have shared his view. Other views than Socrates' are given credence and Socrates "unusual" preferences are justified by Diotama's argument for "spiritual" (platonic) love over other non-procreative purposes.

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